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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:51 pm

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i love how this thread has calmed down a bit.....wouldnt you agree mr. pwnage

I would
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:12 pm

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i agree completely "i agree w/ some of that but its the bank's fault too for giving those ppl money that knew that couldnt pay for it. ". But I dont believe that in the actual bill that was proposed that there were bonuses involved. but about the 700Bil. question. If we dont we could sink into another depression... COULD not will. That why people are so afraid of this. it could work it could not. the economy could implode, or we could just be in a funk for awhile. no one knows what will happen. so if you dont believe in the bill I understand, but IMO it isnt worth it to not do anything... better be safe than sorry IMO. and we arnt turning into socialism, the government is trying to fix a big problem with a big (but risky) solution. Trust me I hate big government just as much as any one... (I am Republican)... but I feel that it is necessary in this instance that the government step up to save the american people from a situation that is no longer under our control. IMO
how is this still capitalism when the government jumps in and says "dont worry about it we'll just make everyone else pay for your fuck ups " (sorry abut the lang in there) and dude the econ. is going to crash again in like 3-4 months if that. and passing the new 850 bil. one will just put us in more debt
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:43 pm

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jCHASEmc wrote:
i agree completely "i agree w/ some of that but its the bank's fault too for giving those ppl money that knew that couldnt pay for it. ". But I dont believe that in the actual bill that was proposed that there were bonuses involved. but about the 700Bil. question. If we dont we could sink into another depression... COULD not will. That why people are so afraid of this. it could work it could not. the economy could implode, or we could just be in a funk for awhile. no one knows what will happen. so if you dont believe in the bill I understand, but IMO it isnt worth it to not do anything... better be safe than sorry IMO. and we arnt turning into socialism, the government is trying to fix a big problem with a big (but risky) solution. Trust me I hate big government just as much as any one... (I am Republican)... but I feel that it is necessary in this instance that the government step up to save the american people from a situation that is no longer under our control. IMO
how is this still capitalism when the government jumps in and says "dont worry about it we'll just make everyone else pay for your fuck ups " (sorry abut the lang in there) and dude the econ. is going to crash again in like 3-4 months if that. and passing the new 850 bil. one will just put us in more debt
WE...HAVE...NO...OTHER...CHOICE... what do you propose should be done. Something must be done, we cant just sit around with our thumbs up our butts and expect some kind of a solution.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:55 pm

this should be a free market so every one takes risks and if u go down in flames it ur fault it souldnt be well help ya out just because you paid for some of my political campaign debt. there are good things that come out of somethings crashing because when a new person comes a long they will pick up the good ideas of the olf company and leave the dumb ones behind but what we have just done is said that we are going to capatilize profit and socilize loss. and since the 700 bil. scam went through the U.S government just told the american public to go screw them selves because 80% of the public is agiant it AND IT STILL WHENT THROUGH. and the other 20% is eating up all the crap the morons throw at thme telling the 20% that the econ is going to be worse off if we dont do something about it and the 20% are listening to the people that said the the econ. was strong 3 months b4 it CRASHED???? tell me how any of this makes sence.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:08 pm

I have never followed the elections as much as I am now. Being 21 at election time this will be my first time doing it. Personally I think Obama will be the better choice. His views, plans and proposals seem more realistic and something he will actually stick to fulfilling. Being a female, just the fact that that he is all for woman's choice makes me want to hug him. No I am not saying I want to get pregnant just to have an abortion, but something that serious and life changing should be the pregnant woman's choice. Also, the fact that he actually has the common sense to pull the troops out if the middle east rather than continuing this war, is another reason. No war drafts another huge one. I understand that I am a female and wouldn't be drafted but, umm hello? Loved ones, my boyfriend in particular would be effected.

Plus Palin= bad example of a woman. Her view points are idiocy and she is really trying to ruin everything past women have done for us in this day an age. So many woman in the past have fought to make a better life for us ( females) and now she wants to ruin it all and take us backwards.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:13 pm

i havent been folowing the womens rights as much because im more into the whole country and what will effent me, my family, future family and guess what it doesnt seem like a nice future the way things are going but i do agree w/ obama w/ getting out of Iraq but atm the better choice is Mccain (in my eyes) everyone is allowed to think what ever they want and i wont get mad at them for it either
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:40 pm

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Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:46 pm

YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:50 pm

Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:52 pm

YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -

you basicly said that you dont want mccain for president because hes old.... its like if some redneck got in here and said that he doesnt want obama for pres. because hes black
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:31 am

Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -

you basicly said that you dont want mccain for president because hes old.... its like if some redneck got in here and said that he doesnt want obama for pres. because hes black
Wait a minute, Age is not in the same ballpark as ethnicity Voro. What they are trying to say, correct me if I'm wrong, is that McCain seems like the typical republican stereotype of the past, and his age is a factor because it seems in these times we need someone who won't be so hesitant. I am not saying that either McCain or Obama would act better or faster, but McCain's age works against him in that area because it causes people to believe he is stubborn and won't listen to the people.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:38 am

An Ironbaby wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -

you basicly said that you dont want mccain for president because hes old.... its like if some redneck got in here and said that he doesnt want obama for pres. because hes black
Wait a minute, Age is not in the same ballpark as ethnicity Voro. What they are trying to say, correct me if I'm wrong, is that McCain seems like the typical republican stereotype of the past, and his age is a factor because it seems in these times we need someone who won't be so hesitant. I am not saying that either McCain or Obama would act better or faster, but McCain's age works against him in that area because it causes people to believe he is stubborn and won't listen to the people.
discrimanition goes either way so yeah race is in the same ballpark as age because you could be a guy that really hates old guys and you could be a guy that really hates asians those people are the same but instead of asians its age...
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:44 am

Voro27 wrote:
An Ironbaby wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -

you basicly said that you dont want mccain for president because hes old.... its like if some redneck got in here and said that he doesnt want obama for pres. because hes black
Wait a minute, Age is not in the same ballpark as ethnicity Voro. What they are trying to say, correct me if I'm wrong, is that McCain seems like the typical republican stereotype of the past, and his age is a factor because it seems in these times we need someone who won't be so hesitant. I am not saying that either McCain or Obama would act better or faster, but McCain's age works against him in that area because it causes people to believe he is stubborn and won't listen to the people.
discrimanition goes either way so yeah race is in the same ballpark as age because you could be a guy that really hates old guys and you could be a guy that really hates asians those people are the same but instead of asians its age...
Yes, discrimination goes every which way, thats just the truth. What I'm trying to say is that if he doesn't want McCain because he belives him old and senile the correct opposite would be he doesn't want Obama because he is young and inexperienced. People can be discriminated against for anything, but if there is some going on its important that you compare the same characteristic.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:47 am

true but ive also heard people in my school say "I don't like McCain because hes white" and thats pretty fucked up and as u might tell that wasn't a whate kid talking (btw if u think that only white ppl are raceist then ur dumb as a rock)
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:48 am

Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -

you basicly said that you dont want mccain for president because hes old.... its like if some redneck got in here and said that he doesnt want obama for pres. because hes black



i agree with iron baby, you can't compare age with ecthinicity , one can have a valid reason for not wanting an old president , but you can never have a valid/sound or even reasonable reason for not wanting a black, white, or hispanic president
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:50 am

lets just agree that discrimination is bad
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:51 am

Mikena2007 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -

you basicly said that you dont want mccain for president because hes old.... its like if some redneck got in here and said that he doesnt want obama for pres. because hes black



i agree with iron baby, you can't compare age with ecthinicity , one can have a valid reason for not wanting an old president , but you can never have a valid/sound or even reasonable reason for not wanting a black, white, or hispanic president
Exactly, disliking someone based upon the color of their skin has no basis but one's own self doubt about their own status. Sorry for the high language lol I get carried away
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:54 am

Voro27 wrote:
lets just agree that discrimination is bad

well duh that goes without saying
no one was even disagreeing there
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:58 am

An Ironbaby wrote:
Mikena2007 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Voro27 wrote:
YUNG TREY 417 wrote:
Jared Legend wrote:
Go Obama i dont want no crusty old president who favors the draft and doesnt support womans choice because the other guy i dont even know his name but shows how much he matters too me.

Go Obama all the way

Hahaha u took the words out of my mouth

dont ya think that is a little descriminatory?

noo not at all i just agree with wat jared said -

you basicly said that you dont want mccain for president because hes old.... its like if some redneck got in here and said that he doesnt want obama for pres. because hes black



i agree with iron baby, you can't compare age with ecthinicity , one can have a valid reason for not wanting an old president , but you can never have a valid/sound or even reasonable reason for not wanting a black, white, or hispanic president
Exactly, disliking someone based upon the color of their skin has no basis but one's own self doubt about their own status. Sorry for the high language lol I get carried away

lol
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:59 am

we were disagreeing that you cant compare some one not likeing age and some 1 not likeing race the 2 ppl are the same (too ignorant to see that age, race, ect. doesnt effect anything)
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:04 am

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we were disagreeing that you cant compare some one not likeing age and some 1 not likeing race the 2 ppl are the same (too ignorant to see that age, race, ect. doesnt effect anything)

o ok well thats very true ..discrimination is dumb anyways
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:15 pm

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lol i guess no one pays attention to politics here except for kleake and i (although he didnt post his views on the matter, ive talked to him long enough to know where he stands)
Well I follow politics, but this is a group of people I want to play games with and be friendly with. I find that polotics can cause a lot of trouble and upset people who feel differently. Being that I am in the minority here It seems pointless to start an online debate.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:31 pm

Hey man, Im a McCain supporter and not embarrassed or afraid to say it. Look back a few pages, people are pretty open minded.... kinda. Stand up for your views, no one is going to get "mad." :mad: 🆗
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:49 pm

Unless you want 4 or more years of Bush then you better vote Obama. I know I am.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:07 pm

jCHASEmc wrote:
Hey man, Im a McCain supporter and not embarrassed or afraid to say it. Look back a few pages, people are pretty open minded.... kinda. Stand up for your views, no one is going to get "mad." :mad: 🆗
Not ashamed one bit I just tend to avoid debates 🤷
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